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Bedroom & rent cuts (11th Nov 12 at 4:36pm UTC)
Govt find new ways to cut benefits
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, so I figured I should spread the news about more benefit cuts

Beginning in April next year if you claim housing benefit prepare to lose a %
If a couple live in a two bed property, housing benefit will be reduced and claimants will have to pay the difference
Not certain about figures, but a couple will only get benefit for one bedroom

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If you are under 35 you will only receive rent for a bedsit, not a flat

Under 25??
Go back home because govt has decided it's a good way to cut housing benefit

Claiming council tax{Confused}
Get ready for that to be cut as well
Claimants will again have to find the difference and pay that

Just when we think it can't get worse

It does {Sad}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (11th Nov 12 at 11:09pm UTC)
Keep the pebble safe and if you get divorced then you can have a room each but stay in the same house as a couple then only one room is allowed is that the kind of message that they mean to send out.
All part of freeing up the housing market by trying to make people homeless.
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (12th Nov 12 at 2:47am UTC)
Never shall I relinquish my beloved pebble no matter how hard life becomes
My pebble has now attained sacred attributes and no one aside from myself may even look upon it
Actually I can only peep through a crack in my bank vault which used to be our second bedroom {Wink}

I have considered saying our second bedroom is in fact a walk in wardrobe for my wife
Or I could put a pool table in and claim its a game room (hints for pool table {Grin} )
Or I could knock the stud wall down and have just one really big bedroom

Actually, how could under 25s go back home if their parents no longer have a spare bedroom {Confused}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (12th Nov 12 at 11:07am UTC)
Removing the stud wall is the only one that councils have to allow, you could knock three bedrooms into one and that passes but having the rooms regardless of purpose (even as a bedroom for carers) does not remove the charge that would be placed on them. It is aimed at couples (or little old ladies) living in a family home after the children have left.
Figures around £8 - £12 a week for each unoccupied room will be removed from housing benefit and have to be paid from other benefits which are means tested to get housing benefit.
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (15th Nov 12 at 4:04pm UTC)
Dates for the diary:
http://www.turn2us.org.uk/information__resources/benefits/news_and_changes/benefit_changes.aspx?page=16619

Harry Potter and the philosophers pebble {Rolleyes}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (5th Dec 12 at 1:32am UTC)
Yep you're right bout the cut
It will be approx £8 per week for us
We will have to pay that out of our food money

Kerbs gave me an idea about my pebble
I'm presently emailing Harrison Ford to see if he would like to star in the movie I've written re my heavenly pebble

I've done all the scripts in wax crayon ( I'm not trusted with sharp implements ) but I keep eating the crayons
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (5th Dec 12 at 1:35am UTC)
Ps

The restraining order should be lifted in a few years
No doubt I will get my reply re film after that {Wink}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (6th Dec 12 at 7:30pm UTC)
Book yourself in for re-hab and it only adds to the interest of a troubled genius marching to the beat of a different drum
don't let little foibles stand in the way of artistic greatness. {Wink}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (9th Dec 12 at 3:57pm UTC)
Many thanks Linus
Could being sectioned count as doing a stint in re hab {Confused}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (9th Dec 12 at 6:23pm UTC)
Could stop other benefits if you are out of circulation for more than a little, they do kick when your down {Unsure}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (12th Dec 12 at 10:29pm UTC)
Becoming the guardian of a religious artefact allows a certain amount of eccentricity, as a servant instructed by a greater power it overrules normally expected boundaries. {Wink}
ps remember one flew over the cuckoo's nest, ahem enough said there {Lips Sealed}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (18th Dec 12 at 5:42pm UTC)
Many thanks for advice Linus & Kerbs

Keeper of a religious pebble sorry I meant artifact definitely sounds better than being described as a fruit loop {Rolleyes}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (21st Dec 12 at 5:54pm UTC)
Eccentric if rich, middle class fruit loop and mad if you are poor, aim for eccentricity keeper of the artefact {Wink}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (23rd Dec 12 at 5:08pm UTC)
Hmmm
In that case I think mad as a March hare aptly describes me {Grin}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (23rd Dec 12 at 8:03pm UTC)
Clear the artefact is a hare loom {Rolleyes} Can they have rooms for imaginary friends then the rooms are not empty often {Wink}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (28th Dec 12 at 12:53am UTC)
My imaginary friend happens to be a spare bedroom {Grin}
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (29th Dec 12 at 3:00pm UTC)
Housing Benefit https://www.gov.uk/housing-benefit/overview the heavenly pebble is worth less than £6,000 or there is an income from it (film and book rights of the story)
CAB viewpoint :
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/benefits_e/benefits_help_if_on_a_low_income_ew/help_with_your_rent_-_housing_benefit.htm

Housing Benefit - changes from April 2013:
http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/housing_benefit_and_local_housing_allowance/housing_benefit_changes_2013
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (31st Dec 12 at 1:28pm UTC)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/17/housing-benefit-changes-high-court
Housing benefit changes challenged in high court

Z2K charity says plans to link housing benefit to inflation rather than rents are 'unlawful and undemocratic'
The coalition's decision to break the link between the cost of renting and housing benefit payments is being challenged in the high court.

In its claim Zacchaeus 2000 Trust (Z2K), a London-based charity, will argue that "unlawful and undemocratic" changes to housing benefit will force at least 80,000 people to leave their homes and establish new lives outside the capital.

Last year the coalition's welfare reforms – which take effect in April – linked housing allowance, for the low-paid living in private rented homes, to consumer price index (CPI) inflation rather than actual rents. Shelter had warned the government: "Linking CPI to local housing allowance would make a third of local authorities unaffordable to low-income households by 2023".

This effect has been compounded by the chancellor's autumn statement, which said that from 2014 the payments would no longer be linked to inflation but capped "at 1% in the two years after that". With charities already warning that "deepening benefit cuts" will have a dramatic impact on homelessness, lawyers acting for Z2K says that the new mechanism to calculate local housing allowance is unlawful as it is ultra vires – outside of the power of the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) – and in breach of the Equality Act 2012.

Until the end of March this year, housing benefit was calculated at a local level by expert rent officers who made reference to market rents and re-calibrated the rates on a monthly basis. The new uprating system throws these mechanisms away in favour of annual re-assessments based on CPI.

The CPI is a measure of inflation that relates only to goods and services and specifically discounts housing costs, meaning the government has severed the link between housing need and local rents.

Z2K says a "rent officers' skills and market expertise have been abandoned in favour of assessment by a rudimentary process of number-crunching, having a disproportionate impact on claimants who live in city centres, especially in London, who, as a result of these benefit reductions, are likely to have to move from their homes into new areas with lower cost housing".

Rosa Curling from solicitors Leigh Day, representing Z2K in its legal bid, said: "We believe this crude mechanism brought in by the coalition government in April this year is unlawful. It could lead to many people being forced from their homes and away from jobs, schools and loved ones. It deprives rent officers of their adjudicative functions and we believe it is in breach of the Equality Act."

A DWP spokesperson said: "We are confident we acted within our powers in making the Rent Officers Order 2012.

"Reform of housing benefit is absolutely necessary to contain massive rises in spending and protect the necessary safety net."
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (10th Jan 13 at 6:32pm UTC)


As my pebble has attained artifact status a price cannot be put on its value
However I now think I may allow a big blockbuster to be made about my discovery and consequential life changing experience
I reckon it will do better than Skyfall
It will be part of a trilogy and will be filmed using Aramaic without subtitles
All profit will go to a charity of my choice
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Re: Bedroom & rent cuts (11th Jan 13 at 3:30pm UTC)
If the pebble is not a secret anynore then a blockbuster film and book deal should cover the rent for a room with a holy relic {Smile}

ps any success in finding flavoured wax crayons {Confused}
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